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. >>> both sides in the fiscal cliff negotiations are much closer despite what you might think. on today's state of the union, jackie -- of the times picked up on something. >> he said you know, the republicans really ought to think about just declaring victory by going along with the president and senate democrats and taking the 98% of the tax cuts they agree on for everybody below $250,000 and just work next year on tax reform and see if they can get the top rate down again. it's hard to think that's not going to be where they end up, so why not make it clean instead of ugly. >> i think that it is true that many republicans are saying privately what tom cole said on this show, that they believe the politically expedient and right thing to do now is just to cut their losses, agree to tax rates going up for the most wealthy and really try for significant tax reforms so that 39.6% is going to be moot. >> if nothing is done by the end of the year to avoid the fiscal cliff, automatic federal spending cuts could impact the foot we eat. emily schmidt explains. >> preparing for holidays is a r
much less expensively. >>> negotiators have become very quiet on the fiscal cliff. odd for them. not much known specifically about what's happening behind closed doors. we want to get to steve israel. a democrat from new york. chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee. nice to have you with us again. i'm always worried when there is not a lot of noise out of washington, d.c. everything quiet. to the point where speaker and the president releasing press releases almost identical. is this good? the talks are moving in a positive turn? >> yeah, look, nothing is certain, but in this case, i think whispering in the white house is better than finger pointing in the media. it suggests, like in any negotiation, the parties serious, trying to work out acceptable compromise. speaker boehner has received pressure from own members looking at polls. including a poll that 60% of the american people want a balanced deal that does ask the wealthiest to do more. they want fundamental debt reduction, spending cuts, which democrats are prepared to do. no news may be good news. >> th
$800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly
of the fiscal cliff negotiations are much closer than you may think despite what law makes say publicly. jackie calms of the "new york times" picked up on something that lawmaker tim cole said recently. >> the republicans should just declare victory and taking the 98% of the tax cuts that they agree on and work next year on tax reform and see if they can't get the top rate back down again. it's hard to think that that's not where they're going to end up so why not make it clean instead of ugly. >> i think it's true that many people are saying privatery what tom cole said publicly on the show. but they believe that the politically right thing to do right now is to cut that you are losses, let tax rates go up for the most wealthy and really try for significant tax reform so that 39.6% is going to be mute. >> so the good news is that negotiations do continue, there was a meeting today between president obama and house speaker john boehner. that happened at the white house today, we are frying to get more details, we're trying to get our white house chief correspondent jessica yellin on the phone a
be addressed now on the comprehensive and efficient fashion. >> in the fiscal cliff negotiation. so what should this mean? because i think i could interpret any given number to say, oh, that means we shouldn't touch taxes for the upper brackets because the economy still needs as much money as it can have in it. or i could argue, oh, this means that we need more stimulus to keep the jobs going, or i could look at the debt and say, oh, this means we need to cut spending. so what does it mean? so what would you, and what globally, what would mean the most for the u.s. to do in terms of the global economy? >> you know, what you said, you would qualify as an economist. on the one hand, on the other hand. the truth of the matter is that the best way out of this would be a balanced solution because you will always fine a school of thoughts that will say it's much better to cut spending, and you will find another school of thought that says it's much better town crea increase the r and cut taxes and there are those that say you need to cut deficits now and in the long run. we have seen studies of all s
, it was 8.8%. how does this play into the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> well, i think the president can and will, i'm sure, make the case that the economy is now clearly headed in the right direction. that the lowering of the unemployment number is not an aberration nor was it a political trick that occurred during the campaign that some had charged. so the president can say, okay, we need to resolve this fiscal cliff issue. or else we're going to start heading in the wrong direction. don't interrupt the recovery that we're having. and if you do, congress, it will be your fault. >> and then as far as the job approval numbers for the president, and this is going to play into this leverage negotiation, as well. how is the president handling his job as president. this is an average of the major polls. 53% approve of the job he's doing. 43% disapproved. that's a three-year high. >> and our monitor poll out this week. 53% approval. and the widest gap we've had on whether people prefer him or republicans. he has a stronger hand in this debate, partially because his approval rate was up. but m
this morning. u.s. stock futures are trading higher. the foj kus is on washington as fiscal cliff negotiations continue. we will also get an update on the health of the labor market when the weekly jobless claims report comes out later this month. >>> by now you all know the siren logo. >> many of you will grab a cup of coffee this morning. starbucks ceo has sobering advice to offer on the looming fiscal cliff, that the consequences will be far worse than last year's debt ceiling fight when the u.s. credit rating was downgraded for the first time ever. his message to lawmakers, now is not the time to play politics. it's about doing right by the american people. >> i think if people would get in the room and leave their ego behind, and not be so skewed towards the party but be so sensitive to the lens of the american people, we will have an agreement. >> poppy harlow is joining us with more. we've been talking about how this will affect us. schultz says this goes way beyond our boarders. >> it's global. something that stuck with me talking to him about this, the people who need a deal most will
of the fiscal cliff negotiation but a question of how much more money saved by things like making packages happen on saturdays but not necessarily all mail delivery. tough negotiation realtime. >> now another thing to the fiscal cliff deal? a deal i'm pretty sure is pretty bad whatever it is. not enough. >> but every little bit helps and here's the point. you know, the post office defaulted twice in the last couple of months, erin. august, defaulted $5.5 billion the first time. congress did nothing, fiddled. happened in september. overall last year, they lost $15.9 billion. something's got to be done. do they kick the can to the next year? >> thanks so much, john. >>> talking about default, they default and nobody cares. some day we'll care and going to hurt. >>> next, 22 days if the fiscal cliff and the president's taking the plan on the road but a guest says mr. obama, you are overplaying your hand. >>> and a radio prank blamed for a suicide. the two deejays behind the hoax speak out for the first time. with a deadline. and from national. because only national lets you choose
have it in their power to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff aren't negotiating, they're not debating right now, so many of them simply leaving town. but there's more going on than meets the eye. let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana basch, she has the latest. >> reporter: there's so much political theater around here right now, you could say tickets. one of today's acts was the house leaving. lawmakers streaming out of the capitol hill, racing to their cars to get to the airport and go home. it's a scene you usually see on a thursday afternoon or friday morning, not wednesday at noon. >> good morning. >> house republican leaders told members they're free to leave, because they have nothing to vote on. >> i understand that you are saying legislation has been put on the floor. when it comes to just pure optics of the house leaving with the fiscal cliff right in front of us -- >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> in fact, sending lawmakers home is a way for house republicans
't negotiate with ourselves. >> here we are just weeks away from going over the fiscal cliff. you probably wonder what's going on in these houses in washington. they put themselves and their political gains first and put their future in prosperity second. hey, you voted them in. remember what happened the last time washington got into a budget battle like this? lawmakers put a band aid on the problem and the u.s. lost its aaa credit rating in the process. i warned you about the economic storm headed our way, partly because of europe and partly because of this fiscal cliff. i also told you about an american economic renaissance that could be just ahead. just beyond the storm clouds. the fiscal cliff is fixable. every day washington fails to make a deal, more damage is being done. john king, ken rogath is the former chief economist at the international monetary fund and diane swonk joins us from mezro financial. john, some people say don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done in an 11th hour deal. as you read the politics at play, what do you see
no real solution today and that pretty much sums up the fiscal cliff negotiations. i feel like a broken record. here we go again on the countdown. day 26. got another 24 hours closer to the edge of the fiscal cliff which is why we have our eyes on the white house press briefing. got a live picture ready for you so we don't miss anything. for what it's worth, president obama and house speaker boehner are talking. they had a nice telephone conversation. that's terrific. the first time in a week but apparently that's the headline. that's the editorial body. not much came out of it that we know of. sources say no real breakthrough. no formal negotiations. sessions are not scheduled. no back channel discussions taking place that anybody knows about at this time and as we wait for the white house briefing to begin, let's bring in wolf blitzer on this topic. there are a couple of polls that are very telling about how americans feel about congress and the president are behaving when it comes to the fiscal cliff. let me read some of these numbers for you. should obama compromise to get things do
on the fiscal cliff. >> how does it play into fiscal cliff negotiation? >> you would think it gives them a sobering sense of if we do the right thing, maybe the economy keeps growing, if we do the wrong thing, might tip the united states. some think even the possibility of another global recession. you would think it would be a motivation to get things done. if you listen to what's said publicly, see if they're working out a deal privately, there are staff level conversations but most of the big voices dug in. >> you had a fascinating interview with the head of the international monitoring fund, it will air sunday on "state of the union." let me play a clip. what happens in fiscal cliff negotiations in washington could have a huge impact around the world. >> there's still that degree of uncertainty that fuels doubt, that prevents investors, entrepreneurs, households from making decisions because they don't know what tomorrow will be. they know that a fix has been found for today but there is still work to be done tomorrow and day after tomorrow. so it would be much better to actually hav
making the case, get out from behind closed doors and negotiate the terms of the fiscal cliff deal in public. let's listen. >> i get nervous when two people disappear into a white house room and start making a grand alliance and they think, we're going to do this and get it out of the secret meetings and into the public venues to the american people and the congress themselves, we're responsible for making intelligent decisions. that should be done publicly. but at some point, after public debate and so forth, yes, private negotiations can help bridge the gap and bring us to a successful conclusion. >> mary, what do you think? will that be a kiss of death? >> i don't think there's time, wolf, the president has been dragging its feet. we have a few numbers of days left before we go off the fiscal cliff and taxes are raised for everybody. so speaker boehner knows a caucus, a serious, mature sober leader. he knows what his principles are. he's a principled conservative, a mainstream businessman and knows what the issues are. the house should and is largely trusting him. >> and what do
. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting point? "outfront" republican congressman james lankford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. appreciate you're taking the time. what about this idea of racinin taxes on everyone? the math works much better. >> i heard your lead in when you said this is a new idea. actually, it's not a new idea, there are several democrats who have floated that for a while. the code word is we want to go back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy that we had a much more vigorous economy and growth and we should go back to the clinton tax rates. what that really means is all tax rates on all americans go back up because the tax rates were brought down in 2001 and 2003. i don't support that. i don't think that's a great idea. it would slow down the economy. >> when you look at economist's evaluations, it would slouw dow the economy. it would. there's no question about it. but if the problem is that we have a lot of debt and th
rates that were there when i was predz. >> with now break through today and the fiscal cliff negotiations, is this a starting point? "outfront" republican congressman james langford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. good to see you, sir. appreciate you taking the time. what about this idea of raising taxes on everyone? the math actually in this case is much more promising. it works much better. >> right. i heard your lead-in on it, and you said this is a new idea floated by howard dean. ints a new idea. several democrats have floated that a while. the code word is going back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy and we should go back to the clinton tax rates. what that means is all tax rates on all americans go back up because the tax rates were brought down in 2001 and 2003. so it's not new, and no, i don't support that. i don't think that's a great idea at all. it will slow down the economy. >> all right. the truth is when you look at economists' evaluations, it wi
the voter approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> breaking news. on the fiscal cliff negotiations, president obama, house speaker john boehner, met face to face at the white house today for the first time in more than three weeks. we do not have any details about today's conversations but reps on both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the two men last met on november 16th. also today, another republican senator announced his support for raising tax rates on wealthy americans. tennessee senator bob corker says if the gop agrees to the wealthy tax hike, republicans would be better positioned to negotiate for bigger spending cuts on social security and medicare. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year-end. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%. and all of a sudden, the shift goes back to entitlements. and all of a sudden, once
. that's the big conversation i had with folks on the hill. this might, might be part of the fiscal cliff negotiation. it's a question of how much more money could be saved by making packages happen on saturday but not all mail delivery? it's a tough decision. >> and now you're adding something more to the fiscal cliff deal, a deal i'm pretty sure is going to be pretty bad. >> but every little bit helps. the post office defaulted twice in the last couple months, erin. august, defaulted $5.5 billion for the first time. congress did nothing. fiddled. now, same thing happened in september. overall last year, they lost $15.9 billion. something has got to be done. can they kick the can to next year or get a deal done before next year? >> sad, defaulting on billions of dollars and we all think nothing is going to happen. one day, america, something terrible is going to happen. out front next, 22 days away from the fiscal cliff, the president is taking his plan on the road. one of our guests says mr. obama is overplaying his hand. >>> and radio prank is blamed for a suicide. two deejays behind t
of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the mortgage interest deduction. government spending on this will reach $100 million by 2014, making it the third largest tax break on the books. who does it help? 41 million people. the most recent irs data showed that 41 million people claimed this deduction on their 2010 tax returns. the tax policy center says it tends to benefit upper middle class families the most. these bars show income in the circles the average savings. for those with incomes of less than $40,000 a year, their savings is $91, look at the people who make $250,000 and more. their average savings is about $5500. this benefits people most on both coasts and cities like chicago, with higher property prices, and we watch the fiscal cliff negotiations closely for what could happen next to this tax goody next year. >> here's the question i'm hearing people ask, if we go off the cliff here, how big a hit will we take on taxs? stand by, because i'm about to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie montgomery, she is the fiscal policy reporter for the washington
in these fiscal cliff negotiations. different than a year and a half ago when the president dealt only with republicans in congress. this time he is taking the case to americans and getting outside of washington, d.c. congressional republicans not so happy that the president is doing this. >> we understand that. paul steinhauser live in washington, thank you. >>> let's talk more about the fiscal cliff. we have the washington correspondent for the new yorker and cnn contributor ryan lizza with us. john boehner and the president in a room, just the two of them. good idea? >> i think it is a good idea. >> if you look at the accounts of the negotiations of 2011 when you had boehner, mcconnell, nancy pelosi all in one ba bainer and the president who were on the phone meeting privately. they could go fwook their constituents and boehner could go to eric cantor and see what kind of deal they could get. but that was the dynamic that came the closest. >> they didn't have control of their parties basically right? does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get anything through t
. >> to washington, d.c. now and the fiscal cliff negotiation. the back and forth between both sides hasn't been complimentary. quite the opposite, in fact, which means the country needs to prepare for what comes next. that would be automatic spending cups and the expiration of bush era tax breaks. the pentagon has been preparing, and as our john callan reports, so have families who have a whole lot to lose if a deal doesn't get done. >> reporter: jeremy connor, married father of two. >> i've worked recently for a very large defense contractor, and my wife works for that same defense contractor. >> reporter: he left that job after 18 years for more stability since the couple both worked in the same department. >> the discussion of the fiscal cliff just made sense for one of us to get out. >> you know, we didn't know what it looked like down the road, if we were even going to have jobs at all. >> reporter: pentagon's budget for the next ten years has already been flashed $500 billion, and could face another half trillion in automatic cuts if congress fails to compromise on a deficit-reducing agre
on averting the fiscal cliff. negotiations are pretty much at a standstill, but if you ask house speaker john boehner, he has an idea of who's holding things up. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be impossible. the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> in his weekly white house address this morning, president obama responded to boehner's remark. >> i'm willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the one trillion dollars in spending cuts i signed into law last year. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >>> holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the jobs report released yesterday. retail hirers hired more people than any month on record since 1939. 146
negotiations? >> well, bernanke is the man credited with coining the term fiscal cliff. he did it back in february as part of testimony before congress. bernanke was speaking at a press conference today and he was asked two things. one, does he see impacts from the fiscal cliff, the lack of a deal, is it already rippling through the economy in? he said, yes. that's why you're seeing a fall in consumer confidence and less business activity and he said that it's impair tea that the congress comes to a deal with the white house and he was asked, do you think that term is correct a. fiscal cliff? is it a slope, maybe? he said, no, it's a fiscal can cliff because the economy will hit a brick wall if there is not a deal in january. he says it is not hype. >> he's basically saying if we go over the fiscal cliff, if these lawmakers and white house doesn't make a deal, it could lead to a recession? >> that >> reporter: that's right. we could hit another recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> shoppers that dive for cover as a gunman opens for cover in an oregon mall. we're going to give y
john boehner trying to negotiate a deal to keep the u.s. from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. house republicans meeting right now and we expect to hear from the house speaker at the top of the hour. dana bash, capitol hill, following the negotiations. how many times have i said fiscal cliff over the past couple months, i can't even, if i had a nickel for every time i'd be a wealthy man. >> we'd be able to avert the fiscal cliff. >> exactly, very good, so much more clever and quicker than i am. dana good morning. the president and the house speaker offered new proposals. what do you know about them, if anything? >> reporter: you know, they're being very, very careful, they're holding their cards close to the vest, which i think you know as a reporter is frustrating but as somebody who certainly wants to get, to see this solved, that that is a completely nonpart son thing to say. it maybe is a good sign, because both sides are being very careful not to let the cat out of the bag on some of the specifics because they don't want the process to blow up even before it really starts
's surprise. what role could it play in the fiscal cliff negotiations? >>> major earthquake rattles nerves and shakes buildings in japan in the same area as nearly two years ago. >>> fiscal cliff for air travelers, ground your trip or compromise air safety. >>> be careful what you write on review websites. one woman is being sued for almost $1 million for posting a nasty review online. find out which side the judge is taking. taking. "newsroom" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- >>> good morning. thanks for joining us. i'm don lemon in for carol costello this morning. the labor department this morning says 146,000 jobs were added in november and unemployment fell to 7.7%. so, let's put this all in perspective for you just one month earlier. in october, 138,000 jobs were added. so we're going to begin our coverage now with cnn correspondent and first up is christine romans. good morning, christine. >> good morning, don. we give the headline 146,000 jobs created, more than we expected, more than economists had expected, twice what a cnn money survey of economists had exp
than a year. fiscal cliff negotiations, they're really focused on fixing the debt. how can you fix the debt if you can't fix the economy? if you can't fix the jobs situation? >> oh, boy, this is the magic question this is why people like paulfreaking out and going, wait a minute, we go over the fiscal cliff, it is austerity, it is bad for job creation and that could be a problem. the bigger issue i think in the long-term unemployment problem is we never really dealt with it from the beginning of the jobs crisis. so 12 million people out of work, 40% of them, more than six months, that's insane. but we have not had a real program to get those long-term unemployed back to work. and, you know, frankly, i don't see anything happening in the future. as we look at that fiscal cliff, what does that really do? it says government is going to spend less money, less money means less job training, less ways to get the unemployed back to work. that really says that we're probably going to be stuck with an unemployment problem for a long time. >> so avoiding a fiscal cliff doesn't necessarily me
cliff negotiations. one expressed dismay today at the climate of secrecy surrounding the talks. listen if you would to senator jay rockefeller of west virginia. >> i get nervous when two people disappear into a white house room and start making a grand alliance and they think, well, we're going to do this to the rich and that to the poor, so we'll make that a trade-off. and like tom harkin says, that is unmoral. you cannot do it. >> so for now, let's just say no budget deal come the first of the year. you know what happens. income taxes go up, and under terms of the debt agreement reached last year, government spending would slow. this is the so-called fiscal cliff. now, it is clear what higher taxes would do. but what about budget cuts? who would that affect? a lot of folks including several million unemployed workers. watch this story with me from cnn's kyung lah. >> reporter: she doesn't call it a fiscal cliff. what she could be facing at year's end is a financial free fall. >> i don't know. i just wish i wasn't in this situation, but it is what it is. and i can just do what i can.
you back to the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. and i think this raises the pressure to get a deal done. that's important. and the part of the deal that is actually not being talked about, but which will be central, is the spending side. the sequester is a very bad policy. both sides agree it needs to go away. they have to figure out how. and the tax side has to be matched by entitlent reforms, and you can pick 37 if you have the right entitlement reforms, but only 36 if you have less and you could get 38 if you have more. there's a lot of work left to be done. >> let's talk about that, robert. on the spending side. do you think that there's any way the democrats get out of this over the next 18 or 24 months without really addressing spending and probably annoying a lot of their base in the process? >> well, the president has already put a lot of spending cuts on the table. let me partially agree with doug. the employment report today was, although it looked pretty encouraging if you look at the numbers underneath the numbers, it was not all that encouraging. the labor force partic
spark when it came to negotiating a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, which is the christmas present the country needs. today we heard president obama's response to the proposal that house speaker john boehner put on the table yesterday. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> of out of balance. kind of similar to what republicans said last week when the president sent over his terms. so now what? will they sit down and talk it through? well, not according to at least one senior republican aide who told cnn today, no conversations today, no e-mails, tweets, carrier pigeons. as for boehner and obama, they actually did see each other in person at the white house holiday party last night in black tie. while other lawmakers waited in line to get the photo with the president, multiple sources from both sides of the aisle tell cnn that boehner wasn't among them. so much for holiday cheer. we have this picture. we're wait fworg the day there's a fiscal cliff. there wasn't total silence in washington today. senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case,
for a fiscal cliff proposal with $800 billion in tax increases. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves. >> reporter: demint really made a name for himself in recent years as a tea party king maker raising millions to help elect half a dozen like-minded conservatives to the senate. marco rubio, rand paul, johnson and ted cruz. >> i've played a role in stocking the senate with solid conservatives who are younger and brighter and better spokesmen than i am. and so i know i'm leaving the senate better than i found it. >> reporter: but demint also infuriated republican leaders by backing several gop primary candidates who could not win their senate seats. remember christine o'donnell? cnn is told senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was annoyed for backing o'donnell and a couple other losing candidates in 2010 and cost republicans the majority. at the time demint told us he was unapologetic and still is. you're trying to send a message to the gop establishment. >> the gop establishment is out. and what we're going
higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is that they become the party of rich people. and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei ining blamed by a pri contender with the field. that doesn't mean they are obliged to stop this. his ow
the fiscal cliff and not voting for a tax raise and then later negotiating taxes down. >> republicans will be blamed, polls show, if we go over the cliff. >> let's turn to jeb henserling, newly named chairman of the house committee and co-chair on the super committee. we heard will saying how do you salvage a political victory? the reality is if nothing is done, if you cannot get together, you go over the fiscal cliff and taxes go up for everybody, correct? >> well, the president is going to get his revenue one way or the other. house republicans will do everything we can to minimize the damage to our economy. we know that by raising the rates on the top two brackets, as the president wants to do will cause middle income workers at least 2% off their paychecks, lose another 700,000 jobs. that's not something republicans are going to be part of. but the president obviously will get some rv new. there's nothing we can do to stop thachl it's written into current law. bottom line is that you can't solve this problem through revenue. and the president is not being serious. he is moving the
was on the way has taken such an ugly, tragic turn. matthew chance, cnn, london. >>> two o the fiscal cliff now. the end of the bush era tax breaks. so, where are the negotiations in washington? well, they're at a standstill. now, house speaker john boehner is putting all the blame on president obama. he's upset that the white house quickly rejected boehner's plan. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. none of it is going to be possible. the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> president obama is asking congress for more than $60 billion for states affected by superstorm sandy. officials from states hardest hit say the money is just a start. with the fiscal cliff looming the staff is sure to face some resistance on capitol hill. >>> he spoke at this year's democratic national convention as an independent, but now former republican florida governor charlie crist is a proud democrat. crist posted a twitter photo friday showing his registration papers tweeting that he's proud and honored to join t
are, just over three weeks from going over the fiscal cliff. you're probably getting a lot of stuff around the house this weekend wondering what the heck is going on in these houses in washington. this is the worst of american politics. they put themselves and their political games first and put your future and prosperity second, but hey, you voted them into office. remember what happened the last time washington got into a budget battle like this? lawmakers put a band-aid on the problem and the u.s. lost its aaa crediting rating. i've warned you over and over about the economic storm headed our way partly because of europe and this fiscal lif, but i've also told you about an american economic renaissance that could be just ahead. just beyond the storm clouds. the fiscal cliff is fixable, but every day washington fails to make a deal, more damage is being doing. john king, ken rogoff and diane swan, chief economist at mezaro financial. john, right now, this is more politics than the economy. some people are saying don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblow
. >> the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: democrat jim manly were top congressional aides for years on opposite sides of many negotiations. >> when you have the negotiations, you have to fill the public space up with images of communications, on what the leaders are standing for. >> reporter: but manly, the democrat, from the president's perspective he says this time is different. >> the president and his team finally came to the result that they can't negotiate with hostage-takers, and learned their lesson from last year. >> the speaker says over and over he is waiting for the president to give him a counter offer, but democrats say they don't expect it to happen until the republicans say they're willing to give at least a little bit on the tax rates for the wealthy. the speaker put out a comment, saying his opposition to raising the rates will not and has not changed. >>> thank you, dana bash. >>> and still ahead, the unique situation, turning them from veterans to citizen leaders in their communities. >>> and
the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this quomz comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those rates. this was treasury secretary geithner earlier today on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. all americans get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. so, in some sense it's a tax cut for all americans. >> reporter: bottom line, anderson, we're talking today but still at stalemate. >> yeah, i mean, it's a sign, jessica and dana, of just how lac
whether you are negotiating a baseball contract or negotiating a solution to this fiscal cliff. we have got to get an agreement that is balanced, that is fair to both sides and i think at the end of the day, both sides will walk away unhappy. that's what a good negotiation does. i am willing to compromise. but we need someone to compromise with. bottom line is bottom line. math has to add up. the republican proposal is based on old washington equation that two plus two equals whatever you want it to be. that's not how it works. even in washington two plus two has to equal four and we need to get to a resolution that reduces the deficit by about $4 trillion and we can do it in a fair and balanced and bold way. >> congressman israel, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thanks, carol. >>> all right. just into cnn, we have confirmed senator jim demint will step down as of december 31st. he's from south carolina. leading member of the tea party. he'll take over the head of the heritage foundation. cnn's dana bash live on capitol hill with more. why did senator demint decide to
's really negotiating anything? you have the fiscal cliff, and you have all kinds of gridlock in washington. what do you make of what you see? >> it is very strange. i mean, it could be that somebody should sit down and rewrite the way america runs things, because, you know, while america did this, china moves forward rapidly. other countries are more decisive move forward rapidly. so i think on the fiscal cliff it will get sorted. it would be nice if there could be a bit more decisive leadership. if you run a company, you don't have this -- this horrible problem where you can't make decisions. you can get on and say if i want to get into space, i'll go into space. let's get on and invest in it. if i want to go down to the bottom of the oceans, let's build a submarine that goes to the bottom of oceans. it's a lot easier than running a country. >> do you blame any particular side? is it all the same to you? >> look, i think i'm slightly biased one way more than the other, but i'm not going to push out 50% of the people watching your program right now. all right. i think that as far as things
that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way this is playing out, i think that's a big risk for t
is in their economy alone. the world is also watching these negotiations and the lack of a deal, certainly, could shake the markets, and shake confidence across the globe. this is a global village watching the fiscal cliff. >> thanks, looking forward to that. looking forward to state of the union which starts in about ten minutes. >>> now, time to get ready for the week ahead, it's a busy week, monday, nobel prizes will be awarded, and on monday, it is fedex's busiest day. and tuesday, a big day for secretary of state hillary clinton, who travels to morocco. three days of talks with governments on how to end bloodshed in syria. more than 40,000 have died, including children, as owe now. and wednesday, the pope is tweeting, go on twitter to catch his first tweet from his personal account. the hope has managed to get nearly 600,000 followers in the last week. and on friday, person of the year, "time" is naming them. last year it was the protester that was picked. "time" is a sister company of cnn, and on saturday, egyptians vote. catch it live here on cnn. there you have it, a busy week ahead. it s
the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we're not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open. cnn's dan lothian is at the white house this morning. dan, i guess the fact that the lines of communication are open is a good sign. >> reporter: that's right. it is a good sign. it was just about a week ago that we were reporting about how nothing was going on, not in public and not in private. aides up on the hill, republican aides telling us there were no phone calls, no e-mails, no communication whatsoever. so this is encouraging in that the president sat down face to face with speaker boehner, but i think it's telling that both the speaker's office and white house put out these identical statements. i mean, what it shows here is that they've agreed to negotiate in private. there's a strategy here not to make this play out in public but rather happen behind closed doors so they can hash this out, hammer this out. it's unclear whether this will continue at that level. i did communicate with
the fiscal cliff which would mean tax hikes for almost all americans but also severe cuts as well. they are debating that publicly as well as privately. i want to talk more about the rebel group that we had mention before in syria, that is now designated a new terrorist organization, cnn's hala gorani joining us atlanta. hala, first of all, you've got the syrian rebels, they're there fighting al assad's government. now the u.s. government, state department, steps in and says, a small faction of this group is considered a terrorist organization. what does that mean on the ground in syria for the rebel forces? >> well, it's hard to tell if it's going to mean anything, really. because what we're hearing now, uniformly from rebel groups on the ground after the designation by the united states of the nusra front as a foreign terrorist organization, look you can't not arm us, not finance us, and at the same time tell us not to rely on the best sort of armed and financed subgroup in the anti-assad fight. so rebel groups are saying you're putting us in a difficult position. they're having
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